VN Ren'Py Love MorteM ReborN [v0.7] [Chris Eman]

[Jhon1885]

I really did not quite understand this explanation actually. For me, the NTR is when LI get fucked by other men outside dream/real life (neither the scene has MC on it or no + player see it). So based on your explanation, the NTR is avoidable. I am right?

Well, to be NTR, you really need more things, technically there are other fetishes wrongly called NTR, I think it even became fashionable the word.
I liked that some people started calling what I do "Pesudo -NTR".
Now then; don't even bother to play this game for real; maybe someday I'll make some fetish inspired game, then I'll clearly say "it has such and such".
It's really not worth it; don't even bother to play it!

But yes, most "dark" scenes can be avoided; and then the canonical stuff, you can miss.

I also dont really understand this...i mean, i dont want to see other guys fucking my LIs, so there is no difference between imagination, dream, memory, cheating or anything else, if i see it the LI is dead for me, ...and i would never consider some (ex)whore a LI
I dont care if they have tons of girlfriends, but i dont want to see them with guys.

Okay, that is not NTR, there are other fetish genres that should be included in the list besides NTR ,
sometimes they put everything in the same bag, from there to confusion like voyeurism, liberal couples, swinger, which is what most of my novels have, not NTR as such.
Basically, you are looking for a Harem game, this is not a Harem game; you will get bored with this VN, really, I would pass on this game.

 

[Virulenz]

Basically, you are looking for a Harem game

Not really, i just dont look for a dick collection.

 

[CatEclctic41]

Well, to be NTR, you really need more things, technically there are other fetishes wrongly called NTR, I think it even became fashionable the word.
I liked that some people started calling what I do "Pesudo -NTR".
Now then; don't even bother to play this game for real; maybe someday I'll make some fetish inspired game, then I'll clearly say "it has such and such".
It's really not worth it; don't even bother to play it!

But yes, most "dark" scenes can be avoided; and then the canonical stuff, you can miss.

Maybe I should play the game first to understand the NTR concept in this game and also the avoidable of the NTR itself

 

[Jhon1885]

Not really, i just dont look for a dick collection.

Neither gay games, futa, nor games with a female protagonist... they are collections of dicks! On the other hand, if it's not harem (no matter how "serious" it wants to look, i.e. it's not a parody) it's the same thing, i.e. think this, those sexually hyperactive female characters, some of them super dumb, or almost nymphomaniacs, come on are virgins waiting for you? Another one, you date all of them, and they only date you?
That's basically Harem, 90% of the games; that's fine, but it's not this style (LMR).

Maybe I should play the game first to understand the NTR concept in this game and also the avoidable of the NTR itself

You mean the original Love MorteM? mmm no; this remake is "softer" than the original, just to give you an idea.
I know it costs a lot (more than it should) to understand this but:
I write stories/games with explicit sex scenes; what does this mean, that the original had a darker vision and I wanted a MC Bad Ass in a fallen layer, for the player to put it together (the way of the hero of all the life in literature), in this part the ex commented infidelity, taking out the "chip" of the NTR, that gave me a lot of juice for talks, and tense events (all narrative).

After being searched with torches, and seeing that Miriam's character was reduced only to a "Bitch" (and by ennecian recommendation of other devs) because the strength of my game is the story (like it or not) and not the fetishes, I was able to change that in the remake.
Also the original doesn't have this filter (or rather it has it almost finished), as other players (and this is important) tolerate what they call NTR; but they don't like to see; I thought to put this filter.

What do I mean by "tolerate"? These players like you may not like to see how they fuck so and so, but they know and understand that they are part of a story.


The same, lesbian scenes, in the original can't be skipped and I saw that some people find it boring, even though it has a couple of relationship construction within the plot, they can't be skipped, in the remake, that's the filter, it's not necessary to see the scene to understand the relationship.
The only thing that not by filter, but by decision, is the futa scenes (when a former student reveals that he is now trans, just do not choose "now it looks better").

 

[DrgnGdxxx]

What do you do after you take the medicine at the hospital?

 

[Jhon1885]

What do you do after you take the medicine at the hospital?

The exit of the hospital can not be used until you take the medicine (the MC needs to go down a few levels), after taking the medicine, go to the exit and you can leave without problems.

 

[gkdlalstnek]

Talented people, please make gallery mode or walk-through mode

 

[aleaxs]

Getting crash after beach photoshoot with Lucretia....

 

[Jhon1885]

Getting crash after beach photoshoot with Lucretia....

Thanks for the warning, I prodrias pass me the save or what renpy says, I tried and those who tested had no error, must be something specific, thanks!

 

[Belphegor007]

I recommend you don't even bother with the filter, because if it still happened but they don't see it people will be pissed off regardless.

Just put in big bold letters on the front page that their is unavoidable rape, prostitution, and abuse of characters
Characters have dark and dramatic pasts

You will never please people who don't want to watch characters that they will care about or who have relationships have sex and all you will be doing is having constant arguments like you are now. Some people will live some won't and you have to accept that and the fastest way is to not beat around the bush and be wishy washy.

 

[Jhon1885]

I recommend you don't even bother with the filter, because if it still happened but they don't see it people will be pissed off regardless.

Just put in big bold letters on the front page that their is unavoidable rape, prostitution, and abuse of characters
Characters have dark and dramatic pasts

You will never please people who don't want to watch characters that they will care about or who have relationships have sex and all you will be doing is having constant arguments like you are now. Some people will live some won't and you have to accept that and the fastest way is to not beat around the bush and be wishy washy.

In principle the idea came up but the players (not casual) of the VN, had told me that "they had no problem with that (of the plot)" but sometimes they preferred not to see it."
But, other than that, it's true, I don't know what I'm going to do after LMR, I'm looking forward to another spinoff; but what I have almost for sure, is to remove that filter.
In the end for trying to do something right, it can be interpreted as something bad.

 

[aleaxs]

'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/Capitulos/invictus/acciones.rpy", line 636, in <module>
IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "Capitulos/invictus/acciones.rpyc", line 636, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2218, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/Capitulos/invictus/acciones.rpy", line 636, in <module>
File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.android-x86_64/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 277, in choice
File "renpy/python.py", line 992, in __getitem__
rv = list.__getitem__(self, index)
IndexError: list index out of range

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.6.1693
-Love MorteM ReborN- 0.4
Sat Aug 13 21:45:44 2022

 

[zandalari]

I have absolutely no clue what is happening in this game. He/she/they pronouns seem to be used liberally regardless of who is talking about who. The exposition flows like water from a burst dam. The world seems to be pretty damn large and well populated, but trying to understand what the author is trying to say is like accidentally joining an expert level language class as a complete beginner. Maybe it makes more sense in spanish. I hope.

And yet I like it. Has a charm to it. This is a passion project through and through and I kept on playing through the engrish to see what other factions/people will pop up. I wanted to be entertained for an afternoon and the game delivered. For that you have my thanks, developer. I'll be looking forward to more installments and hope you succeed getting it where you want to.

 

[Jhon1885]

I have absolutely no clue what is happening in this game. He/she/they pronouns seem to be used liberally regardless of who is talking about who. The exposition flows like water from a burst dam. The world seems to be pretty damn large and well populated, but trying to understand what the author is trying to say is like accidentally joining an expert level language class as a complete beginner. Maybe it makes more sense in spanish. I hope.

And yet I like it. Has a charm to it. This is a passion project through and through and I kept on playing through the engrish to see what other factions/people will pop up. I wanted to be entertained for an afternoon and the game delivered. For that you have my thanks, developer. I'll be looking forward to more installments and hope you succeed getting it where you want to.

Well, it's a little bit and a bit! But definitely to the translation does not help. In Spanish (those who saw it) compared it with Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings, Lovercraft (in general); that is to say, even in Spanish it is complex in terms of hierarchies, factions, lore.
With a mediocre translation it must be unintelligible unfortunately.
But if you have any doubt about the plot I will try to shed light on it!
Once I made a post here in F95, for that very reason (to clarify doubts about the plot) but it had no interest.

 

[aleaxs]

Might it be that old using old save causes the game to crash?

 

[Jhon1885]

Might it be that old using old save causes the game to crash?

No, the error is "out of range".
This happens because the random chats have 9 variants (I use a "double system" so that at first it shows you all the chats without repeating, and then they are mixed).
I use this system in high school; but not by 9, but by 5.
That is to say there are 18 characters (or less, I think 3 are not so mobile) per x3 (morning, afternoon, evening, night) x 5 variants (the variants are that you find them in different places, on different days).
The problem, Renpy confuses the chains; and thinks that they have 9 variants, then; when he wants to choose the variant 6 to 9, he can produce the error; why does he do this? I don't know! What occurs to me is to see that part and to add 4 more variables (or to repeat them until arriving to 9) - You should not have problems if you "ignore the error"; to me it has not happened to me; but I detected seeing where the error comes out in the script.

 

[Ragnar]

The story can be interesting and the pictures serviceable but there are some problems to address if you want more players. The most important thing you need is a translator. You can ask for volunteers if you can't pay one at the moment.
Then we have the gameplay bits. If you want to make a point and click game that's fine, but many players hate any kind of gameplay besides straight visual novels.

 

[Jhon1885]

The story can be interesting and the pictures serviceable but there are some problems to address if you want more players. The most important thing you need is a translator. You can ask for volunteers if you can't pay one at the moment.
Then we have the gameplay bits. If you want to make a point and click game that's fine, but many players hate any kind of gameplay besides straight visual novels.

I know! in fact I tried to do that (classic visual novel) with The Seamstress, ironically it was my worst project (not even in Itch, which usually goes much better).
With the translation, yes, several people have wanted to help, but since they are not paid (everyone has their own free time) for various reasons they disappear.
Paying for a translator is out of (very) the budget I manage, especially with the inflation in Latin America, and the dollar!
There is a bigger problem, which I realized is "my style"; it is very little compatible (in addition to those problems you mention).
Profits; forget about it, now they are going to raise the electricity and gas prices, having a pc with a respectable video card is not economically profitable!
But even so, I enjoy making games of this type; even the Haters have contributed (indirectly) to give me a reason to continue!

After LMR; I don't know, in other styles (as you say) outside of porn; everything that is programming and world building is more valued.
The translation is very frustrating, because it takes time, is tedious, and on top of that it doesn't look good!

I'm looking forward to something more classic Bible Black, with routes; this time "without filters"; no "it is but it isn't".
But, let's see, in my case it's more the personal motivation; in this case, I've been harassed even in Itch by the "anti NTR"; that inspires me to make a VN where the "NTR" is present; but I'm afraid to do the automatic translation.

 

[jejixo2703]

You really should add trans and trap tags onto this post as well as put additional warnings and the option to skip a portion or all of those scenes with trap characters for future versions of your game. You're definitely going to shock a lot of people if you don't mention it, which you already did with me.

La Leo really caught me off guard with her scene

 

[Jhon1885]

You really should add trans and trap tags onto this post as well as put additional warnings and the option to skip a portion or all of those scenes with trap characters for future versions of your game. You're definitely going to shock a lot of people if you don't mention it, which you already did with me.

La Leo really caught me off guard with her scene

Mmm, yes it is true! I'll see if I can edit that.
Let's see Leonor is a character from other spinoffs, she was always Trans; I added her because she was requested.
Now it is very clear the dialogue that talks about her being a student (and here the problem may come in, in English, and more the translator there are words where the verbs don't exist; I see a lot of problems with this).
Then the times that (before the election of Leonor) the dialog comes out alluding that he was a male student, the translation does not make it clear.